• Hachigome Meeting Presentation Manuscript

  • Let’s classify later.

  • Natsuno-san mentioned meeting someone from NicoNico with a smile.

    • Natsuno-san didn’t seem to be very comfortable with it.
    • In reality, the effect of mixing synchronous and pseudo-synchronous communication has not been proven yet.
      • Seeing Natsuno-san’s reaction makes me anxious.
      • Well, Natsuno-san may not necessarily be right, so let’s work hard to prove it.
        • This seems to be the key for the future.
  • When reading other comments, I feel like I’m not being evaluated as much as others around me (emotionally), but I think it’s just because it’s my own perspective and it feels different from others (rationally).

  • Opinions and insights (related to synchronicity)#kineto dialogue

    • The problem of the leading student not being able to see comments may be solved using the TENET method.
      • If there is a group of students who reverse playback from the end, the problem of the student who is leading the most not benefiting may be resolved.

      • When played back completely in reverse, you won’t understand anything, but if you divide it slide by slide and rearrange the order, there will be students moving from 1→2→3 and students moving from 3→2→1, and they will synchronously be able to see the chat in the end.

      • It may only be effective in content listing-type classes, but the idea of asynchronous ordering may be applicable somewhere.

        • From a Facebook comment.
      • (blu3mo) This reminds me of the conversation scene through glass in TENET.
        • Well, the conversation doesn’t actually happen there, haha.
        • Well, the concept can be useful, and it seems like it can be further developed to present a new form of semi-synchronicity.
    • Even if multiple classes take the same course at different times, they can still take the course pseudo-synchronously together.
    • (blu3mo) As a vision that combines synchronicity and pseudo-synchronicity, there may be a world where we don’t need to consciously think about whether it is synchronous or pseudo-synchronous.
      • By the way, what is the value of pseudo-synchronicity?
        • What is wrong with the discussion on Scrapbox?
      • Let’s think about it later.
        • Pseudo-synchronicity is essentially asynchronous, and if it’s just pseudo-synchronicity, it’s no different from asynchronous communication.
        • By mixing it with synchronicity, does pseudo-synchronicity also become synchronous?
          • No, well, this is no different from having a conversation on Scrapbox.
            • Shared documents mix asynchronous and synchronous communication.
            • In a way, it’s all synchronous?
              • You can have a conversation no matter where you look at the video.
              • The disadvantage is that it can spoil the surprise.
              • I want to come up with a new way of understanding synchronicity to explain this.
          • Hmm…
        • Maybe it’s about the sense of participation that was discussed in the Academic Fair?
        • And let’s not forget to consider the perspective of creating new classes that are born semi-synchronously, not just the traditional form of classes.
          • Like the TENET class (at the top of this page), or something similar to that.
          • Like NTT’s, it might be good to show the future of life.
        • It’s a way of perceiving that multiple conversations are happening concurrently.
  • Opinions and insights (related to pen/communication)#kineto video notes

    • The relationship between comments also seems important.
      • Tree relationships can be created.
      • (blu3mo) This doesn’t seem to be directly related to the essence of synchronous students, so it can be left for later.
        • It’s like what was said in the Boost Meeting, you don’t have to catch everything in between.
    • The perspective of how existing communities (relationships) in schools are involved seems important.
    • There may be many cases where handwriting is not necessary, especially in universities.
      • In fields like information science, it doesn’t seem to be needed much, as long as you can type at the annotated position.
    • Handwriting was said to be good for inward communication.
      • #introversion Conference
      • There was a discussion about it being suitable for Japanese people.
  • Opinions and insights (related to teachers)

    • The information itself that says it has stopped may be useful information for teachers.
      • I didn’t consider this perspective.
    • Presenting notes to teachers.- During the class, there was a discussion about how it would be helpful to understand things later, even if they were not presented during the class.
  • Opinions and Knowledge (general)

    • Several people mentioned that interfaces are important.

    • Professor [@shiology] mentioned that it is good to have a teacher’s perspective with a fresh mind.

      • Having a model of what makes a good class.
      • While preserving the format of notes, maybe it is not necessary for them to be in video form?
        • Are the disadvantages greater than the benefits?
        • Creating space outside of the video where annotations can be made?
        • Also considering whether it should be handwritten or not.
    • I thought that I should be more proactive in moving my hands when it comes to interfaces.

      • The person with the hair iron mentioned that they are exploring various presentation methods, like the fish skewer gate.
    • Comments about the hair iron:

      • It’s very good that they are not trying to do anything overly advanced.

      • It’s very fitting that they try to solve things with a low-tech approach because their purpose is clear.

      • I also need to be careful not to try to do anything overly advanced.
      • Low-tech is fine.
    • I thought that I should write code properly and keep my hands moving.

      • I should resume the habit of committing code every day.
    • When it comes to the essence of sports in the context of the mistaken judgment system, or the essence of emojis in the context of emolingual, I thought it would be interesting to express essential, big goals, concepts, or visions.

      • I would like to discuss this with Professor Kiryu.
  • Guest Presentation

    • It’s time to imagine the final form.

    • Let’s create something that I can use.

      • ≒ (nearly equal) something that I want.
    • It’s unrelated, but I thought that having a video editing UI in Kineto would be somewhat good.

    • Ontenna, xDiversity, Miraido-Kan, 2121, they all seem overwhelming.

    • Untrodden Advanced (people from Telorain)

      • In the advanced program, they emphasize thorough quantitative verification.
      • In contrast to the main Untrodden program, which focuses on MVP verification.
      • It’s interesting that there are people who finish their projects in Untrodden but then go on to spread their ideas.
        • (blu3mo) I also want to do that with Kineto in my third year of high school.
        • (blu3mo) On the other hand, it’s not necessarily required to spread the ideas during the Untrodden period.
  • Other Projects

    • What would be the equivalent of emojis in sound?
      • Emolingual x Ontenna.
  • Feedback

    • One of the essences of Untrodden is “deadlines” (by Tanaka, the project manager).
      • “Creators won’t work without deadlines.”
    • Let’s keep in mind what we want to achieve at the presentation meeting.
      • Maybe I should watch the usual videos when I’m mentally stable.
    • Let’s focus on both the long-term and short-term perspectives, at least alternating between them.
    • What we should refer to is “expert advice” and “amateur opinions”.
      • We don’t need to worry too much about “expert opinions” or “amateur advice”.
        • Expert opinions may deviate from common sense.
    • Let’s rely on other project managers as well.
    • Let’s try not to think “I wish I could have done more” after the presentation meeting.
  • Social Gathering

    • The person who talked about the maze mentioned that it would be interesting because there is no existing example of it. It’s appreciated.
    • By conducting many experiments, we can eventually obtain knowledge that only we know in this field, and that’s when we feel amazed and impressed.
      • We can feel the essence of Untrodden, and that’s what makes it interesting.
    • (blu3mo) I see. I feel like I can see the future direction now.
      • There is a talk by Natsuno at the top, but even N Preparatory School may not have fully explored everything.
        • Especially since N Preparatory School already has existing examples from Nico Nico, there may not be much motivation to delve deeper.
      • I’m actually getting excited now.
    • In past cases, there were examples where there was little progress at the 8th station but it became amazing at the final presentation.
      • On the other hand, there were also cases where people became complacent at the 8th station.
  • Shiozawa Sensei

  • Rizumu-san

Untrodden 2020