Finding X-like People (Temporary)

• Throughout my life, I have met and become friends with several people who share similar characteristics.

• I refer to them as “X people.”

• I want to understand the mechanism and structure behind this.

• While each “X person” may have various differences when examined in detail, I have a gut feeling that there is a common underlying mechanism that they share (blu3mo).

  • I want to organize what is common and what is not.

Examples:

• tkgshn
• rickshinmi
• Shawn Park
• In fiction, Trillion Game’s Haru

Characteristics:

• High communication skills
• Adaptability?
  • The skill to adjust words and actions to suit the other person
• Broad coverage range?
• Ability to take risks?
  • Trillion Game Episode 64 ‘10 Yen Investment’
• Lack of some ethics
  • Grass (tkgshn)
  • This is related to the ability to take risks, where one perceives something that most people see as worth 10,000 yen as only worth 100 yen (nishio)
    • So, while many people fear a loss of 10,000 yen, becoming nervous or cautious, or regretting when a loss occurs, individuals like this move forward swiftly with expressions like “Let’s give it a try,” “It will work out somehow,” or “Oh well, it didn’t work out!”
    • When cautious individuals see this “Oh well, it didn’t work out!” part, it may appear to them as “lack of ethics.”
    • +1 (blu3mo) (MugiSus) (takker)
    • I might have too much ethics (MugiSus)
    • In a club, there are overly optimistic individuals compared to cautious ones, and the former’s way of speaking and thinking is exactly like this (takker)
• Really good people
  • While it is possible to explain how each person is a “good person,” I want to abstract that.
    • Is it a slightly forceful altruism with a step further?
• Tend to have trouble with some people

Hypothesis as of 20240601 (blu3mo)

• Could it be a person who can unilaterally take significant risks for the benefit/upside of both parties?

  • Such as risks mentioned in Trillion Game Episode 64 ‘10 Yen Investment’
    • There might be some risk, but if things go well, the relationship strengthens
  • Not only doing things that clearly please the other party but also being able to do things like “being very pleased with an 80% chance but disliked with a 20% chance,” maybe?
    • I thought this was quite accurate (MugiSus)
    • In situations where polite conversation would suffice, deliberately taking a challenging approach
    • It might be a kind of audacity or assertiveness (MugiSus)
    • There is an impression that they are good at getting people hooked (they get people hooked very quickly) (MugiSus)
    • The thought process of “being 80% pleased but 20% disliked” may be aiming at the evaluation from others, but it seems like (tkgshn) is not aiming for the evaluation from others (nishio)
      • This might also boil down to feeling like “it’s not a loss of 10,000 yen, but a loss of 100 yen,” where the coefficient for evaluation from others is small

• While their surface-level communication skills stand out, there seems to be this underlying nature

  • Taking risks —> Gaining experience —> Improving communication skills, like a causal relationship?
  • As skills improve, it becomes easier to take risks, so there seems to be a positive feedback loop here

• There could be various reasons such as having high damage resistance, having a risk evaluation function that differs from the majority, or having courage (blu3mo)

• I think this is very close to the concept of Putting One’s Own Money mentioned in Antifragility (blu3mo)

• Implications of this

  • Recognizing the asymmetry of that risk- It’s not just about having people with high communication skills to make the atmosphere enjoyable and everyone happy.

• It’s about those people Putting One’s Own Money into it.

From listening to each person’s story, it doesn’t seem like “If you’re an X type of person, all your relationships will go smoothly and you’ll be happy.”

• Everyone Has Their Own Hell
• That’s right (tkgshn)
  • Is this “I see” or “Is that so”? (blu3mo)
  • Is that so (tkgshn)