TENET

• I watched it because it was recommended in the 2 Report FB.

• It was interesting.

• #time

• I thought that it was something that could only be expressed in live-action movies, not in novels, anime, or manga.

• If I, who is moving forward, have my stack of building blocks knocked down by a reverse traveler, how would it look to me?

  • If the reverse traveler knocks it down, does that mean I didn’t stack the building blocks in the first place?
    • It’s difficult to express the cause and effect of the world of TENET in conventional Language, haha.
  • Is it not about cause and effect, but about logic (formal)?

• My current thoughts:

  • There are no parallel worlds, only one timeline.
    • = It is impossible to kill one’s grandfather.
    • Why?
      • There is no decisive evidence.
      • However, if there are parallel worlds, anything is possible, and the speculation becomes uninteresting.
  • Those who pass through the rotating door become inverted matter (so-called antimatter?)
    • The cause and effect of what passes through is reversed.
    • Consciousness can also be seen as a collection of cause and effect.
      • When an inverted consciousness sees inverted matter, it appears as a natural movement.

• Problems:

  • When were the things destroyed by the reverse traveler created? (paradox)
    • For example, if the reverse traveler destroyed the building blocks, when were they made?
    • This also applies to Stalsk-12’s building.
  • What happens to the cars that are inverted in the car chase?
    • Hypothesis 1: The cars themselves are forward matter.
      • In this case, did the reverse traveler operate in reverse to drive the car?
      • However, the car was moving at a speed that cannot be achieved in reverse.
    • Hypothesis 2: The cars themselves are inverted matter.
      • The problem with this is that they wouldn’t be able to pass through the rotating door, right?
  • The problem of not being able to see light.
    • I guess this is something we can ignore.
  • What happens with the interaction between inverted matter and forward matter?
    • There is a problem of which cause and effect to follow.
    • Example: When you put your hand in front of a bullet and it sticks to your hand.
      • In this case, the inverted cause and effect of the bullet side worked.
      • If it were not a human and a bullet, but a human and another human, the absurdity would be more apparent.
    • The behavior of forward and inverted matter is not symmetrical.

• Did you see the first rotating door? If you saw it, you could go, something like that.

• When many things are inverted, the timelines become complex, and the one with more becomes dominant.

• The relationship between consciousness and multiple realities cannot be known.

  • The hypothesis that the same consciousness is always in the same timeline seems strong.
  • Neil and others ultimately fit all the pieces together.
  • The term “protagonist,” is that what it means?
    • That is ultimately the protagonist’s timeline.

• Ice makes sense because it is frozen.

• The last scene:

  • The bomb did not explode.
  • The real dangerous bomb was nearby, something like that, said by the protagonist.
    • At the same time as this line, his son was shown.
    • The camera work clearly focused on the son, although Kat was also shown.

• AREPO:

  • The protagonist theory:
    • Honestly, there isn’t much evidence, but
      • However, it’s unlikely that he would appear in that square as a supporting character.
    • Oh, but does Kat know AREPO?
  • Inferred from being a forger:
    • Fiction creator = director?
      • That also seems different. I think the word “forger” is different from “fiction.”

• Who is the son?

  • Sweater: “The greatest sin in life is giving birth to a son.”
    • He was talking about God or something.

• Neil: “If we lose WW3, all living beings will disappear.”

  • This was quite strange.
    • Not all matter, but why living beings? That was the question.
  • If we understand it as all consciousness with awareness disappearing, it makes sense.
    • Various timelines (arrows of time) of consciousness are intricately intertwined.
    • If it paradoxes, the timeline that loses in the dynamics of the arrow of time will disappear, something like that.- If not, why not let future people use algorithms if there is a timeline for each consciousness?

• Alternative answer to “Why not let future people use algorithms?“:

  • The timeline of consciousness is such that when one person dies, another person is born to continue it. Not a very beautiful concept.
  • Also, what exactly do algorithms do? They definitely have an impact on multiple timelines.

• Aunt: “If you take actions that are different from what is already known, we won’t be there.”

  • This contradicts the theory of consciousness-based multiple realities.
  • Or it could be a misleading statement, suggesting that if a paradox occurs, it might lead to disappearance.
  • However, considering the number of small paradoxes that seem to occur, the idea that paradoxes mean the end might be different.
  • Should we consider it statistically?#unclear

• “You are ‘a’ protagonist.”

  • This can be interpreted as implying consciousness-based worldlines.

• Other notable statements:

  • “What happened happened.”
  • “We live in a Twilight world, and there are no friends at dusk.”
  • Neil: Reality.
  • These statements seem to connect to the concept of multiple realities rather than multiple universes.

• Buriya: To get close to Sator, a protagonist is needed.

• The 5x5 thing:

  • AREPO is the subject, emphasizing its importance.
  • One axis represents time, and the other represents worldlines.
  • However, the concept of a center seems unnatural.
  • Is the protagonist’s timeline the center, or is it something above the timeline?
  • If we view it from a meta perspective, is it about how the movie captures the world?
  • The term “protagonist” also suggests that.
  • Meta-wise, the answer to the question “What is TENET?” becomes the name of the movie.

• SATOR and AREPO can be seen as entities that transcend timelines.

• How do worldlines interact with each other?

  • If we consider it similar to time, there must be some kind of order.
  • How much are they related to each other?
  • Algorithms can be said to have an impact on many timelines (or maybe all of them).
  • SATOR and AREPO can be seen as entities that transcend timelines.
  • There is no evidence, but Aunt also gives off that vibe.
  • Could “we live in a twilight world” be related to this theory?
  • Ultimately, only the opera guy and Sator mentioned it.
  • Is the opera guy AREPO?
  • Oh, he’s the protagonist.

• What is the understanding of Neil, Aunt, and the future people?